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as an example when they used gay marriage to actually beat john kerry putting ballot initiatives on there at the same time as the kerry-bush campaign? >> hi, cenk. i think since 2004 we've had a lot of conversations. people in the lgbt community has talked to their neighbors their coworkers, their family members and basically telling people who they are telling people their life story. it was much harder to ignore them and much harder to demonize them as well. so once members of the lgbt community start sharing who they are with members of the community, with their state with their country you change hearts and minds. when i talk to people about my relationship with my husband people look at me, they smile. they see we have a nice relationship, and they start opening up to the reality and the possibility that two men and two women can engage in committed legal relationships. >> cenk: evan, is this a water shed election where we now see finally the tide turning? >> absolutely. as you already said, we were four-for-four yesterday. in three of those states it was the first time that
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